Episode 234: Swamp Thing – Rite of Spring and Windfall

On this episode, we discuss a Swamp Thing story that we’re surprised didn’t qualify for our recently wrapped We’re With the Banned miniseries on banned and challenged comics – Rite of Spring from Saga of the Swamp Thing #34, as well as its sequel, Windfall from Saga of the Swamp Thing #43, by Alan Moore and various artists, published by DC Comics!

First up, Abigail Cable finally professes her love for our sentient vegetable man. And in lieu of sexytimes, he offers her communion via a bite of one of the tubers growing on his body, sending her on a consciousness-altering trip that shows her the interconnectedness of all things.

Next, we meet Chester Williams, an affable hippie who finds one of Swamp Thing’s discarded tubers in the bayou. Part of the yam finds its way to Sandy, a woman dying of cancer. Another part of it ends up with Chester’s unpleasant acquaintance Milo, and … let’s just say things don’t work out very well for one of them.

Like, does this mean Swampy and Abby are going out? Does the yam as a kind of cosmic litmus paper? Do kids today even know what litmus paper is? And are these two stories good enough to embark on that long, strange trip known as … The Comics Canon?

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Episode 233: Ice Haven

We’re With the Banned, our miniseries on banned and challenged graphic novels, concludes (at least for now) with a stop at Daniel Clowes’ Ice Haven, a “narraglyphic picto-assemblage” published by Pantheon Books!

A collection of comic strips covering a variety of styles and perspectives, this peek behind the curtain of suburban America introduces us to an absorbing cast of characters including bitter would-be poet Random Wilder, lovesick teen Violet Van Der Platz, her young stepbrother Charles, clueless detective Joe Ames, aspiring writer Vida Wentz, and … (ahem!) comic book critic Harry Naybors.

How does the abduction of uncommunicative tot David Goldberg affect our cast? What do Leopold and Loeb have to do with any of this? And can Ice Haven find itself welcome in that idyllic small town known as … The Comics Canon?

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Hey, Where’s My New Comics Canon?

We’re afraid you’ll have to wait another week for our episode on Daniel Clowes’ Ice Haven. But that doesn’t mean you’ll have to wait a whole week to hear Curt and Kevin talk at length about comics.

In fact, you can hear them render judgment on some fun comic-book stories of yesteryear this very day!

Confused? Kevin’s here to explain.

 

 

 

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Episode 232: Gender Queer

On this episode, We’re With the Banned, our miniseries on banned and challenged graphic novels, takes on the most banned book of the past several years – Gender Queer: A Memoir, by Maia Kobabe, published by Lion Forge Comics/Oni Press!

We discuss some fairly personal topics and fumble a bit (although not as much as we may have feared) with the author’s preferred pronouns (e, em, and eir) as we discuss Kobabe’s account of eir struggles with gender dysphoria and other issues on the road to identifying as nonbinary.

 

It’s an important work, especially in our current cultural moment. But is that enough to guarantee entry into that bastion of One Direction fandom known as … The Comics Canon?

In This Episode:

  • The Spivak pronouns
  • A brief discussion of Barbarian
  • Bad news from the future
  • How did we end up talking about typing class?
  • Curt’s review of Thunderbolts*
  • Gamemasters: The Comic Book History of Roleplaying Games

Join us in two weeks as We’re With the Banned continues with a discussion of Daniel Clowes’ Ice Haven!

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Thunderbolts* Delivers Smaller Story With Bigger Emotions Than Most MCU Fare

WHAT ABOUT BOB? David Harbour, Hannah John-Kamen, Sebastian Stan, Florence Pugh and Wyatt Rusell star in Thunderbolts* (Marvel Studios)

Review by Curt Holman

Marvel Studios’ 36th movie is called Thunderbolts*, which tells you two things:

  1. It’s about the antihero team that’s been a part of Marvel Comics for almost 30 years.
  2. The title ends with a cheeky asterisk, so… maybe it’s not?

Thunderbolts*’ early cast announcements and trailers made clear that the film wasn’t using the killer premise from Kurt Busiek and Mark Bagley’s introductory run on the title. The original 1997 Thunderbolts were a band of established villains masquerading as heroes, doing the right things for the wrong reasons. (It’s a great idea! Where’s THAT streaming series?)

Instead, we were introduced to a grab-bag of assassins and antiheroes from such recent MCU projects as Black Widow, Ant-Man and the Wasp and the Disney+ series The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and a film that seemed closer to the Suicide Squad-style hook of the more recent comics.

Ultimately, Thunderbolts* feels most like the original Guardians of the Galaxy movie, throwing together some wisecracking losers and malcontents for adventures that turn them into an unlikely found family. Thunderbolts* arrives in theaters carrying a lot of baggage, as well as Marvel Studios’ hopes for reversing the slumping franchise. Almost miraculously, it manages to stay out of its own way, delivering more heart than you expect amid the MCU’s patented quips and spectacle.

The film gets off on the right foot by centering the story on Florence Pugh’s Yelena Belova, surrogate sister to (and replacement for) the Black Widow, a.k.a. Natasha Romanov. Pugh is one of the most promising actors of her generation, and here she’s able to comfortably carry the demands of action melodrama and comedy.

Pugh’s particularly blessed because screenwriters Eric Pearson and Joanna Call have a sharp take on the character. The film opens with Yelena on a mission but, in voice-over, discussing how she’s haunted by her bloody profession and grieving her dead sister. This manifests not in cliches of “grappling with inner demons” but instead, very relatably, in a low-grade depression over her days being unfulfilling and blah. In her first lines she talks about feeling an emptiness inside — a void, if you will — which provides a strong through-line for the characterizations and the heroics.

Yelena has been working as an operative for Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (an underwritten Julia Louis-Dreyfuss), the current CIA director whose recurring MCU role has been as kind of a corrupt Nick Fury. The U.S. Capitol is holding impeachment hearings for Valentina, drawing the attention of Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan), now an improbable member of Congress. That Bucky, a former brainwashed assassin known as The Winter Soldier who has never shown any social graces, is now a successful politician doesn’t make any narrative sense, but works as a perplexing joke.

Valentina orders Yelena to a remote secret base to tie off the loose ends of one of her many sinister schemes. There, Yelena finds herself at odds with other super-agents on similar missions, including the intangible Ghost (Hannah John-Kamen) and disgraced former Captain America John Walker (Wyatt Russell). Has Valentina set them up? Also on the scene is Bob (Lewis Pullman), a hapless civilian who’s surely not the innocent milquetoast he appears. Thunderbolts* clicks into place once the characters become reluctant allies, with Russell making Walker, a posturing, macho asshole, into a great comedic foil for the others.

Yelena and the others try to survive death traps, hit squads and their mutual hostility while bickering over whether they should investigate the mysteries before them or just go into hiding. Along the way, they pick up Bucky as well as Yelena’s surrogate father Red Guardian (David Harbour), a washed-up ex-Soviet super-soldier and scene-stealing comic relief figure. The action comes to a head in Manhattan, literally in the shadow of some major events in Marvel movie history, but this group — who may or may not even be called “Thunderbolts” — seem completely unequal to the cataclysmic threat that emerges.

Marvel Studios has become notorious for taking promising young directors and running roughshod over them. Thunderbolts*’ Jake Schreier seems to be an exception, giving this franchise entry some genuine personality. I never saw his film Robot & Frank but was impressed with his work directing the Netflix miniseries Beef, and he brings out similar snappy rhythms and raw emotions to Thunderbolts*’ character interactions. Pugh and Pullman effectively carry the running theme of battling depression, which becomes literal as the film’s finale finds an alternative to the usual shoot-shoot, punch-punch action stereotypes.

Some reviewers have called Thunderbolts* the best MCU movie since Avengers: Endgame, which I think is an overstatement. It has some derivative qualities and is neither as ambitious nor as spectacular as Wakanda Forever or Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. But in its smaller, more contained way, it might be the most satisfying. Everyone involved seems to appreciate that, if you don’t care about the characters, what’s the point?

Thunderbolts*. Grade: B. Stars Florence Pugh, Sebastian Stan. Directed by Jake Schreier. Rated PG-13.

 

 

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Episode 231: Assassination Classroom Vol. 1: Time for Assassination

We’re With the Banned, our miniseries on challenged comics and graphic novels, rolls on with a discussion of Yusei Matsui’s manga Assassination Classroom Vol. 1: Time for Assassination, published by Viz Media!

Consider this a big ol’ content warning, as this charming and bizarre story contains many scenes of attempted murder inside a school, as the underachieving students of classroom 3-E are charged with assassinating their teacher!

Oh, and that teacher, Koro Sensei, just happens to be a tentacled creature with a giant smiley face for a head, who’s already destroyed most of the moon — and threatens to do the same thing to the planet Earth unless our hapless junior high students can assassinate him before the school year ends!

This may be the silliest book we’ve covered on the podcast – far sillier than Ambush Bug for sure. But will that be enough to win a seat at that cool kids’ table known as … The Comics Canon?

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Episode 230: Pride of Baghdad

Content warning: Sexual assault, cruelty to animals

In this episode, We’re With the Banned, our miniseries on banned or challenged comics and graphic novels, continues with a discussion of Pride of Baghdad by Brian K. Vaughan and Niko Henrichon, published by Vertigo/DC Comics!

Based on a true story, this absorbing graphic novel follows four lions who escape from the Baghdad Zoo following a bombing by American forces in April of 2003. Filled with smart dialogue, sharp characterization and rousing action, it quickly makes you forget you’re reading a book about talking animals as it draws you into its vividly realized world and makes you care for its four protagonists.

Will Noor, Zill, Safa and Ali find food and safety on the deserted, shell-shocked streets of Baghdad? And will they at last roam free in that heavenly habitat known as … The Comics Canon?

In This Episode:

  • Curt’s no good, very bad day
  • Why don’t more people talk about Brian K. Vaughan?
  • Why has this book been challenged? It’s not because of the Iraq War
  • Three Kings
  • Four Lions
  • The New Gods by Ram V. and Evan Cagle

Join us in two weeks as We’re With the Banned continues with a discussion of Assassination Classroom Vol. 1 by Yusei Matsui!

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Episode 229: This One Summer

In this episode, we kick off We’re With the Banned – a miniseries on banned or challenged comics and graphic novels – with a discussion of This One Summer by Mariko Tamaki and Jillian Tamaki, published by First Second Books!

In this delightful, finely detailed coming-of-age story, friends Rose and Windy contend with their impending adolescence during a summer beach trip, set against a pair of contrasting conflicts revolving around pregnancy, communication and depression.

 

Will Rose get over her crush on store clerk Dunk and realize she’s backing the wrong horse? Will Windy ever slow down and take a breath? And can they prevail in that high-stakes game of Beach Blanket Bingo known as … The Comics Canon?

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  • Please consider donating to the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund
  • We welcome a surprise guest
  • Petit Maman
  • The Power Fantasy Vol. 1: The Superpowers

Join us in two weeks as We’re With the Banned continues with a discussion of 2006’s Pride of Baghdad by Brian K. Vaughan and Niko Henrichon!

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Episode 228: Daredevil – The Devil in Cell Block D

In this episode, blind lawyer Matt Murdock, aka Daredevil, is behind bars – but so are Hammerhead, the Kingpin, and a host of other hardened criminals in 2006’s The Devil in Cell Block D, by Ed Brubaker and Michael Lark, published by Marvel Comics!

When someone close to him suffers a grisly fate, a spiraling Matt Murdock is bent on revenge!

And if that weren’t bad enough, Bullseye and the Punisher join the fun as simmering tensions come to a boil, resulting in an all-out riot!

 

Who is the mysterious figure manipulating things from behind the scenes? Who is the fake Daredevil patrolling the streets of Hell’s Kitchen while Matt cools his heels in the slammer? And can ol’ Hornhead win favor with that parole board known as … The Comics Canon?

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Episode 227: Daredevil – Out

A mere 16 years after the Kingpin learns Daredevil’s secret identity in Frank Miller’s Born Again, that secret becomes front page news in 2002’s Out, by Brian Michael Bendis and Alex Maleev, published by Marvel Comics!

Returning to his indie crime-comic roots, Bendis puts attorney Matt Murdock through the wringer in this compelling story grounded in street-level atmosphere by artist Maleev and colorist Matt Hollingsworth.

Is gaslighting your friends and loved ones okay if it means you can put on a costume and fight crime? Just how much are we supposed to root for a hero who doubles down on lying to the entire world? And can Matt Murdock get a fair shake from that sleazy tabloid known as … The Comics Canon?

In This Episode:

  • Homicide: Life on the Street
  • A few words from our sponsor
  • Some random podcast ideas
  • The Origin Story podcast
  • The Big Empty by Robert Crais
  • To Live and Die in L.A.
  • Daredevil: Underboss
  • Amazing Spider-Man: Civil War

Join us in two weeks as join ol’ Hornhead behind bars for The Devil in Cell Block D (issues #82-87), by Ed Brubaker and Michael Lark!

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